@freediverx @Migueldeicaza And saying totalitarianism/authoritarianism and (Marx&Engels) socialism are independent axes seems intellectually dishonest. You seem to have read them, so you should know.
Again, I'm talking about Marx-Engels socialism, not social democracy. But countries like mine (and USSR and Cuba) are/were socialist in the former sense, so hopefully there's no confusion of the terms.
@filiph @freediverx not sure what part of their work you are referring to, but even their manifesto didn’t survive unscathed by the time they died. Engels even acknowledges this in one of his prefaces to later editions, where he presents the document as a historical artifact, but acknowledged the vast splinter movements and the flaws in their original document.
Like any plan, it needs to be adjusted with reality.
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