Post by @delta@chaos.social

#Telegram is re-inventing #webxdc mini-apps, but poorly: its new HTML widget, attached to a message, only talks to a bot registered with Telegram's centralized, non-encrypting infra. https://core.telegram.org/bots/api-changelog#november-9-2026

With #deltachat anyone can add mini-apps ("zip" files really) to a message, permission-free, no bot rquired, and the "app message" talks peer-to-peer with chat members, end-to-end encrypted and with realtime messaging using @n0iroh Rust library under the hood.

https://webxdc.org

Webxdc: mini apps shared in a chat

Secure mini apps for chats. No internet access, no tracking, no servers.

Bot API changelog

The Bot API is an HTTP-based interface created for developers keen on building bots for Telegram. To learn how to create…

#webxdc #telegram #deltachat

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Philippe Miossec

@pmiossec@piaille.fr 2 hr. ago

@delta @n0iroh great!
But could you find a way to make the update of an app easier/easy?
How do we do when no export/import feature is available in an app?

mikelgs :mastodon: ⁂

@mikelgs@mastodon.eus 2 hr. ago

@pmiossec
I guess that is app's "fault"
@delta @n0iroh

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@delta@chaos.social 2 hr. ago

@mikelgs @pmiossec @n0iroh How to upgrade apps is always under discussion, but solving it generally is more tricky that you might think. TL;dr It amounts to a distributed upgrade that needs to make sure all state currently in transit resolves, and everybody has the same state on all devices, and upgrades might be delayed because devices are offline currently etc. The current crutch is: export all state to a file, post the new app, import the state, and remove the old app.

mikelgs :mastodon: ⁂

@mikelgs@mastodon.eus 14 min. ago

@delta
Oh, now I understand what he meant 😅👍

Anyway that seems to confirm what I said: all mini apps should provide the export - import option

@pmiossec @n0iroh