Post by @davidgerard@circumstances.run

@davidgerard@circumstances.run 10 hr. ago

I know the user for a touchscreen laptop, it's my wife, who had an HP Envy with touch screen running Windows 10 and found that on particularly unwell days, clicking by touch was just fine.

her current is a non-touch HP Elitebook (also Win10) and I asked and she would quite like a touchscreen laptop again. hardest part would be finding one that does Win10 and doesn't require Win11 if you have specific cause to run Windows.

so don't say there's no use case for a touchscreen laptop. instead, say the current ones are shit.

EDIT: linux advocates who are about to essay "why don't you just" should just fuck off right now

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Knightmare

@LanceJZ@mastodon.social 5 hr. ago

@davidgerard there is no computer that can run Win11 and not Win10. Windows 11 is just 10 with a bunch of crap added.

David Gerard

@davidgerard@circumstances.run 22 min. ago

@LanceJZ does the crap include necessary drivers?

Lady Errant

@errant@mastodon.sdf.org 6 hr. ago

@davidgerard the lack of diversity in form factors and features really sucks. 10 inch laptop? Its going to be slow, but there are tons of fast tablets that run a limited os. Phone with any shape but candybar? Get ready for small companies with little to no money for fixing the broken os on their phones.

Andrew Golding

@huronbikes@cyberplace.social 8 hr. ago

@davidgerard the Surface 3 Pro worked pretty good (the 4 had all sorts of weird build quality issues). My old Dell XPS laptop is still very functional.

Are the new crop of Windows 11 devices not allowing Windows 10 installs?

David Gerard

@davidgerard@circumstances.run 23 min. ago

@huronbikes i haven't tried, but if they don't say WIn10 i assume they balk on it or lack drivers - is that not the case?

Samael :therian:

@Kishi@meow.social 9 hr. ago

@davidgerard

the older surfaces are okay but i would worry about battery swelling. the things are not new.

David Gerard

@davidgerard@circumstances.run 9 hr. ago

@Kishi yeah this was around 2019-2020, i *nearly* bought one in the airport on the way to canada in early 2020

8gb was quite a usable amount of memory then, before web pages got as fat as they are now

George B

@gbargoud@masto.nyc 9 hr. ago

@davidgerard

I had a touchscreen laptop for work where I could fold the keyboard all the way back to make it a tablet.

I got really pissed off that I couldn't configure it to only accept touch input when in tablet mode because I kept knocking the screen with my knuckles when typing and sending the cursor.in weird places.

I hope your wife finds one with an extremely easy to toggle touch screen to turn it off and on exactly when desired.

Andrew

@andrewt@mathstodon.xyz 9 hr. ago

@davidgerard yeah, I have an old touchscreen laptop and it's a nice feature to have. Not massively useful, but all things being equal I'd rather have a touchscreen than not, and yeah, it's good as a drawing tablet — currently I have an iPad for that and it's a pain to get the files off it given I don't have a Mac

Abhiram

@axel@social.glitched.systems 9 hr. ago

@davidgerard@circumstances.run As a current HP Envy user, I feel like touch screen laptops are only good if you can fold them back fully to turn them into tablets

David Gerard

@davidgerard@circumstances.run 9 hr. ago

@axel this was a 15" and quite heavy, so it really wasn't tabletable

Dr Ro Smith

@Rhube@wandering.shop 10 hr. ago

@davidgerard They're also useful for artists who want to draw on their laptop as a lightweight alternative to an artist's tablet. Honestly, it's not bad.

David Gerard

@davidgerard@circumstances.run 10 hr. ago

@Rhube i was considering a Surface Go at one point (a 10" tablet that was literally a PC and would apparently Linux quite well) but i knew she'd nick it for precisely that

Dr Ro Smith

@Rhube@wandering.shop 9 hr. ago

@davidgerard That does sound pretty cool.

I also wanted a lighter laptop for writing that was easier to carry about than my gaming laptop, so the Lenovo Yoga worked pretty well for that.

I have a good artist's tablet, but it has to be wired to a laptop for use, and that's really limiting. Decent tablets for drawing that don't need that are £££, though.

Wilfried Klaebe

@wonka@chaos.social 9 hr. ago

Wouldn't getting two solve that?

@davidgerard @Rhube