Thinking about the least harmful fashpublican who could win in 2028 because I really really really don’t want a Vance (Thiel) presidency.
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@OneFluffyBoi Respectfully, the Dem Congress will demoralize the base so much they won't want to turn out. Chuck & Hakeem have already begun. If the choices in '28 are Kamala and AOC, and the donors kneecap AOC as they did Bernie, well, Kamala is a genocide conservative who doesn't inspire, and the base won't turn out. Same with Newsome. Maybe Pritzker?
Vance (Thiel) can totally win.
@amcooper Oh, the Dems are definitely going to be their usual controlled opposition selves, but the median voter will blame the current bad vibes on the incumbent and will consequently vote for the other guy. Like in the current cycle, the Dems spent the past 2 years actively enabling the worst aspects of the Trump administration and tanking their party's approval rating to embarrassing lows, yet they still just saw success in the midterms. When both of the options are shit, they simply vote for the other guy. While Trump is in office, that works in the Dem's favor. Once he's out, it's going to work against them.
I also personally don't think that Vance has the sauce to command Trump's supporters.
@amcooper Trump will still be the public face of the government in 2028, so that race will likely go to the Dems that cycle. The 2032 Carlson/Fuentes ticket is the one to be concerned about.