I really didn’t have money on Proton crashing and burning as a trusted community partner and company due to leadership AI psychosis this rapidly. It’s incredibly disappointing and a huge loss.
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@hacks4pancakes It should have already started over a year ago with his right-wing Trump support.
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@timapple The letter in itself isn’t the issue, and this “bit of drama” is currently costing them current and future sales, so I wouldn’t say it’s inconsequential. Proton was serving a niche market with specific needs and boundaries, and they just breached one of these in a spectacular way. They don’t have anything else to compete against mainstream email providers.
@hacks4pancakes Don't worry, Tuto decided to voluntarily crash and burn in response.
@ra6bit Oh no, what happened? Do I want to know?
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As we realize that every CEO seems to be an authoritarian sociopath, perhaps it’s time to start questioning our faith in capitalism.
Proton previously expressed support for US fascism.
@hacks4pancakes After getting a lifetime Proton Pass account just a month ago, it's a heck of a kick in the pants. I don't have any other Proton products, but was happy to settle into lifetime password security.
@hacks4pancakes these days greed trumps all, I’m going back to bed
@hacks4pancakes out of the loop, what is the TDRL?
@hacks4pancakes I've been a paying Proton user for a decade, but it's clearly time to change. My annual plan renews in less than a month, so I'm watching this thread intently for replacement suggestions.
@hacks4pancakes I'm just.... I just don't know any more.
@hacks4pancakes Yeah... I made some quick adjustments to my own paid Proton subcription. Disappointing to see this, don't want to leave the product and need some time for off ramping and then on ramping elsewhere.
speedrunning the Mullvad / 1Password playbook
@hacks4pancakes Oh, damn, that's so frustrating. Proton's not the only provider I use, but I've relied it as a backup for certain things, and really needed to have confidence in it.
I'd seen some reports of questionable politics and so on, but having prepaid I didn't plan to move off it at this time, but this is completely bat-doodah crazy.
I'm almost at the point of crying with frustration at this stuff; I just don't have the time and energy to deal with it.
@GerardThornley Same. I wasn't ready for it just be effectively gone overnight. We're all scrambling to replacements.
@hacks4pancakes And nothing out there seems to fulfill all our criteria. Tuta appears to be a popular choice, but isn't without problems. I think that's another reason I hadn't already moved - when I last looked around, I wasn't happier about anything else.
I've done self-hosting before, but it's a lot of work and I'm not on top of things enough to keep it patched against current threats. Also, cloud IPs frequently get blocked but I wouldn't want it on my home network.
Sigh...
Nobody’s mad at the employees working there. We’re all super grateful for your efforts and sorry it’s ending like this.
If you use and particularly, pay for anything they make, you need to read this. It’s one of the worst I’ve seen even in the 20s. 😳🫠
I don’t think they’re recovering without the board removing executive leadership. https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/
But thinking about it, the red flags were there.
@hacks4pancakes Good grief. I think I'm going to use a custom domain from here on out so I can just grab my mail and repoint the MX records the next time a CEO goes insane.