Hier à table on parlait de la manif de samedi avec les collègues (pas mal y avaient été, d'autres non + le traitement médiatique, bref, yavait de quoi causer).

Quelqu'un a évoqué (en dénonçant) le drama des médias fachos sur des drapeaux maghrébins dans les manifs.
De fil en aiguille avec une collègue on a expliqué aux autres le massacre du 17 octobre 61 : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_du_17_octobre_1961

Personne connaissait à part nous deux, alors qu'on était un groupe de gens politisés, sensibilisés... Le silence autour de cet événement, qui produit cette ignorance, ça me met vraiment en colère je crois.
Du coup, deux ressources là dessus : ⤵️

@girlonthenet I do wish they'd not use the flagship instance as a bleeding edge test environment

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Je ne condamne pas les violences.

Nouvelle analyse politique sur les causes sociopolitiques des dégradations et pillages du 17 octobre.

https://peertube.stream/w/m4dLvLPFG4HB5aCMuAL6Sc

RE: https://mastodon.social/@bagder/117409500929017375

@phnt @feld

FYI

Thanks for bringing this up. I think in general we need to work on optimisation of Activitypub and Threadiverse implementations of it.

I’m a fan of the second one. My thought is, of you trust a server enough to accept messages from it, then you should also trust it enough to let it scrape the page title, article image, etc. for you, too.

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@baconandcoconut I remember a friend casually saying "don't eat mystery squash; if two edible varieties of squash cross-pollinate and grow a mystery squash in your yard, they can poison you" and I was like WHAT that can't be true

AND IT IS

That’s not true, you know the data hasn’t been tampered with because of HTTP signatures. The fediverse isn’t just “yolo, just trust me bro”. There are some parts that are a bit more towards that side (particularly with groups on Lemmy) but I don’t think this should be.

That second solution is what I thought of as doing as I read this. It doesn’t rely on a third party service being up. And that instance has to do that work anyway. So why not just share the results with others?

Similar, except those are caused by users visiting a link, whereas the Fediverse issue is federated servers gathering info before users even see a link.

These guys are actually bad at fascism because they don't understand what the federal government is for.

I shared a link from NPR Tiny Desk but there was no image preview or video embed. After investigating this I learned that when you do that, each instance picks up the link and individually retrieves the link preview nearly simultaneously. For gargantuan sites like YT or Reddit, this is a trivial amount of traffic and not a problem, but for smaller sites like NPR this results in a sort of botnet DDOS attack on the site’s servers. More here. Another example here . For that reason, NPR has blocked Fediverse servers like Mastodon.

I have experienced this on my personal server as well (DDOS), but at the time didn’t know why, exactly.

This isn’t the end of the world, but certainly is not great and hurts engagement with the content. Is there a solution for this? Perhaps using some sort of webtorrent service like PeerTube where they just fetch the information from another fediverse server instead of the source server? Maybe fetching embeds client-side? At least that would stagger the requests.

Is this the same thing as the “Reddit hug of death”?

@davidgerard

It's a technology deeply rooted in disrespect for other people's resources. Other people's time, money, electricity, water, labour both physical and intellectual, art and writing are what it was built on without compensation.

Also it's massively inefficient compared to algorithmic computation.

So if you let the agents on your website, they'll brute-force scrape every page 1000 times to find how to buy one of whatever you're selling, possibly incorrectly, and then not buy it.

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update: oh fuck is broken on not logged in? will investigate