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@hanspetermeyer @mike
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I think that’s where we’re at, it has been burned down and these are the ashes.
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You know I started watching again around when Petey arrived, and I thought they had just rebuilt then, or were in the process, but it just seems to be the burning it down part forever.
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I think hammerhead coaches are a mistake, anachronistic, I think Berubé finished Toronto and I think Tockett finished Vancouver. Not evident yet, but I am boldly predicting a crash in Edmonton for the same reason. I know the world is going backwards but the privileged First World boys of hockey aren’t there yet, there’s still some humanity there that doesn’t like being forced into combat and would rather play hockey. Maybe it will change with the next batch, but it hasn’t quite yet.
@punishmenthurts @mike Re Canucks - I like what I’ve seen & heard viz coach Malhotra. I also liked what I saw on-ice when I was watching last night.
One of the best things I’ve heard re rebuilds came from Habs owner Geoff Molson: don’t rush it; do it right. They’ve stuck w a coach (5 years now?), and are assembling a team based on fit & talent. Similar to Carolinas.
Oilers owner has been pushing “win now” since the arrival of McJesus. Among other things, that’s meant new coaches every 2 years, Babcock the latest. It’s frustrated everyone, including team leaders, who now think they know what’s best. (Not a good situation when your stars are firing & hiring coaches.) I think you may be right, Goiterzan. That one-line team may be on the edge of implosion.
As for Canucks, be patient. Let new mgt and coach figure things out. Nice to see Petey emerging (I was hoping for Pete-on-JT fisticuffs last night).
@hanspetermeyer @punishmenthurts @hnom Malhotra is a very sharp hockey mind. Not sure if he's a motivator though. I think the Peterson contract really hamstrung the organization and I think the scouting corp is among the worst in the league. When's the last time the Canucks drafted a hidden gem out of the second or third round? I don't think the answer is hiring more alumni into management. #HNOM
@mike @punishmenthurts Which brings me to my new favourite hockey question: How important is the Capt?
The NHL has a habit of making talented teens (or near-teens) the Capt. See: McDavid, Bédard, Celebrini, Q.Hughes. When has this worked, ie. given a team the maturity, experience, and wisdom to win?
Is it the coach’s job to motivate millionaire athletes, or to teach them? Shouldn’t these players already have the motivation —and especially the Capt, to challenge each other and themselves to be the best?
Re Canucks: I loved QH, but he didn’t have the experience or the fibre to stand up to JTM’s silliness, or to inspire Pettersson’s greatness.
Re Oilers: McD is the best player, but he didn’t have the experience or maturity to lead when he was young. Events in past 13 months tell me he still isn’t worthy of the C.
About Bédard & Celebrini, it’s still early days.
@hanspetermeyer @mike @hnom
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Wow. I got no notes.
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Only that it does make sense to have one guy for the refs to deal with, I’d have to say there ought to be something like a captain for that, but generally authoritarian hierarchies are not my thing.
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I mean, who would want to work for McJesus?
@punishmenthurts @mike
I’m not talking “authoritarian hierarchies,” I’m talking leadership. Who, by example or inspiration (rather than berating), leads à team to be better than it thinks it is?
I doubt a teen or near-teen has the experience or maturity to lead a locker room or bench to excellence.
Capt’s who stand out for me, today, from what I’ve seen and heard about them. These guys seem to lead on the ice, and by their demeanour off the ice.
Crosby, Penguins and Team Canada
Suzuki, Habs
Lowry, Jets
Landeskog, Avalanche
Staal, Hurricanes
Barkov, Panthers
Horvat, Islanders
Who’s on your list? Why?
@hanspetermeyer @punishmenthurts @mike I think. Celebrini is doing a great job. He learned a lot about leadership from Crosby when they played together at the Worlds. From all accounts his work ethic is epic, and he’s been calling player meetings when they needed inspiration during down periods.
@hanspetermeyer @hnom From what I saw it's still a shambles. I would burn it down to save it at this point. I'd literally fire everyone and start over. Hockey ops for sure, no scout would be spared from my wrath. Then I'd call a meeting of the season ticket holders, letting them know their would be pain but there would also be rewards for their loyalty.