I mostly learned about it from people who fled it to my country in the 1980s and poverty in america was better than equality in the soviet union.
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@sun it's just very convenient to point to cuba as an example of failed communism but leave out the reason that they're impoverished is that the cia threatened anyone who would trade with them
@vriska I really don't have a problem with people wanting a better world and more cooperation. it's just like, software people that will tell you "you can't architect a technical solution to social problems" will offer technical solutions to social problems for government
@sun i genuinely believe that if weren't for the USA's influence post WW2 allowing them to enforce trade embargos or you get the nagasaki treatment doctrine that communist leaning countries would not be impoverished
@vriska true but this is kind of like anarchism would succeed if other states left it alone argument
@sun a socialist republic ruled by a communist party with a lot of communist things going on like limited private property ownership
a democratic socialist state like Denmark is probably a much more fair comparison but you know how these things go
a democratic socialist state like Denmark is probably a much more fair comparison but you know how these things go
@feld european socialists that don't have affinities for communism are okay.
@sun I mean true but also any state that's been blacklisted for trade will fail