Post by @dou9m@lemmy.ca

Banned from lemmy.ml for suggesting spam was Russia

Saw a post saying some shitty Christian lemmy instance was spamming bullshit on one of their latest posts, I said something along the lines of “probably Russians”. Come to find out my comment was removed and I was banned… then to find out they effectively have a CCP agent running town… lol.

I’ve seen people mention they were a garbage instance, now I know why! They said I broke rule 1 … this might just be the app I’m using but they don’t even have any fucking rules to look at lmao.

Glad they did the work for me and made it easy to avoid them.

#fediverse

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wuffah

@wuffah@lemmy.world 11 min. ago

That’s because they’re actually propagandists for those authoritarian governments pretending to be communist. They’re about as communist as the Nazis were socialist.

CameronDev@programming.dev

@CameronDev@programming.dev 32 min. ago

Cochrun_xyz wasn’t even the largest spammer. rabotaem_app was, and if you go there (I’d suggest not), it is a Russian language Lemmy site…

The site they were spamming for is based in China.

foggy@lemmy.world

@foggy@lemmy.world 1 hr. ago

what? The good folks at Lemmy.ml didn’t like you talking down about a dictator?

Wild!

dou9m

@dou9m@lemmy.ca 1 hr. ago

Lol what’s especially frustrating is the fact that I didn’t even! Literally just made the broad assumption that it was of Russian origin.

It’s the digital equivalent of seeing a foreign bomber plane and being like hmm probably the US because we love bombing people. Like yeah you might be wrong… but you’re probably right depending in where you’re physically located!

OpenStars@discuss.online

@OpenStars@discuss.online 52 min. ago

Lemmy.ml and even more so lemmygrad.ml (the latter is defederated from by most sane instances across the Threadiverse) are tankie platforms. Tankies believe in alternative facts, such as the fact that nobody died in the Tiannamen Square Massacre. Or if they did then they deserved it. Or if they did not then it was necessary. Or if it wasn’t then… - I am saying that you should expect arguments to shift goals moment to moment, based on the personal biases and need to appear right on the Internet, regardless of any need to actually be thus.

And don’t even get me started on hexbear.net, which has no real beliefs at all beyond the raw need to troll people incessantly (this one is also defederated from by nearly all sane instances across the Threadiverse).

So, you are missing out on nothing important whatsoever. Consider yourself fortunate that you discovered this early on.

atrielienz@lemmy.world

@atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 hr. ago

Sounds about Lemmy.ml.

Pamasich

@Pamasich@kbin.earth 3 hr. ago

I mean, what do you expect from an explicitly (m)arxist-(l)eninist instance. Their entire religion is "west bad, russia and china literally the best" and censoring any wrongthink. And yet there you are implying Russia is behind a bad thing. Of course they'd take action against you.

Imo fediverse projects really need to federate instance rules. Just include them in the instance actor (if they aren't already) like you'd do with a community, then use them if available.

apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world

@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 2 hr. ago

Fwiw, one can be a Marxist Leninist and think Russia’s government sucks. It is anything but Marxist or Leninist.

I know you didn’t mean that, but figured it needed to be said.

Kyrias@lemmy.ca

@Kyrias@lemmy.ca 2 hr. ago

Yeah, but the tankies still love them. It’s weird. Putin openly acknowledges he’s trying to rebuild imperial Russia, not the USSR, and still.

dou9m

@dou9m@lemmy.ca 3 hr. ago

honestly I think memorizing TLDs for Geoguessr a few years ago made me think Malaysia before i ever considered .ml to stand for marxist leninist lmao

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world

@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 hr. ago

It’s Mali’s TLD, they just like that it lines up with Marxist-Leninist

dou9m

@dou9m@lemmy.ca 1 hr. ago

Fuck now you’re telling me I mixed up Malaysia and Mali?! Just put me out of misery now

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CombatWombat

@CombatWombat@feddit.online 3 hr. ago

Ну вы че ожидали? Они там то постоянно так поступают. Я предвижу что все у вас лучше станет немедленно.

dou9m

@dou9m@lemmy.ca 3 hr. ago

I don’t know Cyrillic but assuming google translate got this translated right: I was honestly more shocked that they popped me so quick, if anything.

Usually, they at least try and put up a facade of freedom of speech. To get the psychological walls down and all that, you know?

CombatWombat

@CombatWombat@feddit.online 2 hr. ago

Nah, that’s for people posting Russian disinformation from other instances. ML is fully just for people who want to luxuriate in it and not bother to pretend.

eremophila@lemmy.zip

@eremophila@lemmy.zip 3 hr. ago

You sound like a mcmurican

Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe

@Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 19 min. ago

You sound like a tankie.

There, now we’re even.

dou9m

@dou9m@lemmy.ca 3 hr. ago

Why ya say that?

slazer2au

@slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 hr. ago

dou9m

@dou9m@lemmy.ca 3 hr. ago

Lmao no in general but yes for lemmy!

Glad that the fediverse allows for mitigating this somewhat by design… but this has absolutely opened my eyes to the glaring flaws on the entire Lemmy platform as a whole.

anarcockworkorange

@anarcockworkorange@anarchist.nexus 2 hr. ago

Flaws? It’s a feature.

saltesc@lemmy.world

@saltesc@lemmy.world 2 hr. ago

Normally people block ml quite quickly after arriving. Within a month or two. Maybe you’re not yet aware that you can personally blacklist entire instances, not just communities and users.

OpenStars@discuss.online

@OpenStars@discuss.online 1 hr. ago

Yeah… except no - nothing at all provided in Lemmy restricts users on that instance from trolling you in your DMs, and in posts in communities located on other instances.

You either have to block each user account one by one (and keep repeating that as new ones pop up), or else switch to PieFed to gain the ability to apply a true instance block affecting all users on it at once.

In fact I hear that lately PieFed.social even applies a user-level instance block against Lemmy.ml by default for all new joiners. It is easily removable and a DM sent to the user explaining how. The feature is transparent as a bag of rocks - I cannot even find solid confirmation that it actually exists - but aside from that it’s a good step IMHO to protect the reputation of the Threadiverse from exactly OP’s scenario.

eleijeep

@eleijeep@piefed.social 3 hr. ago

Their rules are on their front page.

Edit: OP said this:

this might just be the app I’m using but they don’t even have any fucking rules to look at lmao.

I’m literally just responding to it. Thanks for the downvotes 🤡

OpenStars@discuss.online

@OpenStars@discuss.online 1 hr. ago

I did not downvote you myself, but at a guess perhaps it’s the fact that not everyone uses a browser. Voyager in particular is very popular and I seems to go out of its way to hide that even - like you can click on “Sidebar” to view the community rules, but I have not seen how to be able to read the instance ones.

Voyager also by default hides the instance names after people’s accounts. Every community on every instance is presented as if it were the same as all others. By that logic then, we are all the same space (with no distinction provided) as Lemmy.ml - the entire Threadiverse is very much is a tankie bar.

zoloftt@lemmy.world

@zoloftt@lemmy.world 3 hr. ago

Yeah why are you getting dumped on??? Insane

[deleted]

@snooggums@piefed.world 2 hr. ago

Prior to the edit people probably thought they were trying to be snarky about the rules inatead of their intent to show the rules are displayed despite the OP not seeing them.

Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe

@Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 17 min. ago

OP was clear about wondering if it was the app they were using.

This comment made no clarification whether they used the same app or got this from a browser.

Then closed with a clown emoji.

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zoloftt@lemmy.world

@zoloftt@lemmy.world 2 hr. ago

prettybunnys

@prettybunnys@piefed.social 3 hr. ago

Rule 1 aka you can’t point out the moderators overt bias or conjecture as to why their bias exists.

dou9m

@dou9m@lemmy.ca 3 hr. ago

Strange that it doesn’t show for me when I check, must be a mobile issue of some kind.

Still laughable though, TIL it’s bigoted to suggest the #1 perpetrators of digital warfare are probably committing more digital warfare.

anarcockworkorange

@anarcockworkorange@anarchist.nexus 2 hr. ago

Open the sidebar, that’s where instance rules live, generally.

HogGirl

@exupulosion@sh.itjust.works 3 hr. ago

Bigotry towards russians? Lmao

eleijeep

@eleijeep@piefed.social 3 hr. ago

Well they were talking about the instance (probably wrong) rather than the bot accounts (possible).

Also, is a 2 day ban really worthy of an indignant post like this?

dou9m

@dou9m@lemmy.ca 3 hr. ago

Wasn’t worthy of a post, yet it’s worthy to look at and comment on? Lol.

Genuine discussion is good, which is exactly why I view banning people for saying things as minor as what I said as insane. I’m not just blanket statement assuming all Russians are bad.

Didn’t see it was two days, may as well be a lifetime ban though now that I know the mods ban for effectively just mentioning other countries. It’s bizarre.

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