@stux I think they do live among us and probably there are secret agreements between governments, but it isn't what we think they are like and stuff.

@stux that sounds the most likely scenario. Space is huge. If something isn't in our solar system it is so far away that we can't even begin to understand.

@stux if you have a dice with infinite sides the likelihood of only 1 prime number being on the dice is infinitely small and yet the likelihood of landing on a prime number is equally infinitely small.

so on an infinite sided dice you can guarantee that there are many primes and yet you can also almost guarantee that you'll never roll any of them.
- and thus we have our answer to where all the aliens are at. 😀

(also if I was an alien, I wouldn't come here either.)

@stux I think there are highly intelligent aliens out there

And the evidence for their intelligence would be their studious avoidance of this planet

@stux well the astronomer Ogilvy said the chances of anything coming from mars is a million to one. So odds must be really huge of any aliens coming from outside the solar system.

@stux Also people thinking about aliens on earth don't consider timelines. Humans have been on earth for a tiny fraction of the existence of the planet. What are the odds that some aliens (probably not lasting much longer on their planet) arrive here just at the right time, considering the limits of space and time?

@stux No, they saw the human race at war with itself and decided "nah, fuck that shit".