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@valorzard@mastodon.gamedev.place 7 days ago

RE: https://chaos.social/@karolherbst/117582653984915630

I love the idea of open source software, but it’s useless to people who don’t know how to code.
And, if you DO know how to code, if it’s not documented well, that’s a LOT of effort to be able to actually change or fork or maintain it yourself.
No wonder most people who aren’t coders resort to LLMs, it’s all gobbledygook to them so why even bother reading or writing the code.

I think the answer here is to make programming and computer science much easier to understand and learn.

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ArneBab

@ArneBab@rollenspiel.social 14 min. ago

@valorzard I’m using Guile with Hoot for games in webassembly.¹

And the promise of Hoot is (was?) that it will be a real Guile, though it seems to get sidetracked a lot. I have a list of issues that are missing to have full support in the Hoot shell for running all the examples in Naming & Logic²

¹ e.g. a very unfinished one: https://arnebab.itch.io/drachi (there’s a non-wasm version that’s further developed and that’s I’m porting to wasm there)
² https://www.draketo.de/software/programming-scheme (the web REPL is hoot)

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ValorZard

@valorzard@mastodon.gamedev.place 7 days ago

Like, I love Rust, and I can write it pretty decently these days, but it still would take 6 months or so for someone to go from no coding knowledge to a full non trivial Rust program.

We need a way to write performant code that is easy to understand and easy to build, but still lets you be expressive.

Sure stuff like Python and Lua exists, but those languages have performance caps due to the way they have been designed compared to Rust/C/C++

There must be a way to combine the two…

ValorZard

@valorzard@mastodon.gamedev.place 7 days ago

For me, I feel like the answer is to go back to C or at least a C like language, and make it easy for people to learn and give them tools for memory and thread safety so they can go hog wild without harming anyone

ArneBab

@ArneBab@rollenspiel.social 7 days ago

@valorzard sounds like Fortran with OpenMP for threading.

⇒ https://www.draketo.de/english/free-software/fortran

That said: I’d prefer if people used Guile and only used FFI with C for performance critical parts.

I’ve taught people how to do full-C-speed python by moving performance critical parts to cython:

https://cython.org/

But Python 3 is growing annoying, with more and more cryptic errors, as they move typing into everything.

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