I really didn’t have money on Proton crashing and burning as a trusted community partner and company due to leadership AI psychosis this rapidly. It’s incredibly disappointing and a huge loss.
@hacks4pancakes Oh, damn, that's so frustrating. Proton's not the only provider I use, but I've relied it as a backup for certain things, and really needed to have confidence in it.
I'd seen some reports of questionable politics and so on, but having prepaid I didn't plan to move off it at this time, but this is completely bat-doodah crazy.
I'm almost at the point of crying with frustration at this stuff; I just don't have the time and energy to deal with it.
@GerardThornley Same. I wasn't ready for it just be effectively gone overnight. We're all scrambling to replacements.
@hacks4pancakes And nothing out there seems to fulfill all our criteria. Tuta appears to be a popular choice, but isn't without problems. I think that's another reason I hadn't already moved - when I last looked around, I wasn't happier about anything else.
I've done self-hosting before, but it's a lot of work and I'm not on top of things enough to keep it patched against current threats. Also, cloud IPs frequently get blocked but I wouldn't want it on my home network.
Sigh...
@hacks4pancakes Even worse then his last meltdown but where to go? Even with slop integration I currently don’t see alternatives that come even close in general use for mail and vpn.
Hell I even have problems to replace their own manager not fan per say but it was so dead simple that even elderly none tech people got it.
@hacks4pancakes I had written them of when I heard about the CEO being 'anti-woke' (aka pro-fash), that must have been 1 or 2 years ago. Seems I was right.
@hacks4pancakes at least they were kind enough to do it before my unlimited sub renews lmao
@hacks4pancakes got me thinking about hosting my own webmail but i'm terrified of spam
@hacks4pancakes sounds like he has AFP - AI FOMO Psychosis.
@hacks4pancakes
If you just need a secure email, why not try Tuta? [1] The mobile app is not as flashy as Proton's but it works and I've been quite happy with it.
I believe they have a rather strict no-AI stance too.
Also the paid plan lets you create 15(?) different emails pointing to the same inbox. It's pretty useful when you don't want to use the same emal everywhere.
[1] tuta.com
@hacks4pancakes how little love do they have over doing things right, another Mozilla in our hands
@ozamidas I have to object because while I'm not happy with Firefox, they aren't close to this level of scorched earth insanity.
@hacks4pancakes My family was looking to get off gmail and were considering proton but now that its staunchly pro-radioactive ai slop, I'll keep looking
@hacks4pancakes This really sucks. I've been moving away from Google services as much as possible and purchased a subscription for Proton Unlimited back in March. Guess I need to start looking for alternatives. I have a couple custom domains. Been using Proton Drive for my photo backups from my GrapheneOS Pixel. Use calendar app. Not much else. Any recommended alternatives that are privacy friendly, no AI BS, etc?
@hacks4pancakes The bit berating a staff member for suggesting maybe they should spend some time testing the security of the slop code before shipping in their product whose entire reason to be is the privacy and security of its customers.
I mean sure, churn out your slop code for your shitty little shopping list app, but some things need stronger guarantees perhaps?
I say this as someone with an app in each of the mobile app stores that is completely slop generated. Also not important cornerstones to anyone's privacy.
@hacks4pancakes Any recommendations you can make on where to look next? I'm literate enough to have my own instance on a managed hosting provider but not much more than that
Always happy to pay for a service so as not to be a product...
@Ali there was nothing international that was that mature.
@hacks4pancakes Massive loss then
@hacks4pancakes It’s yet another cautionary tale about the mental health risks of chatbots.
@hacks4pancakes Warning signs began appearing shortly after Proton's appearance in the states.
Very troubling.
I hope it is not a trend.
speedrunning the Mullvad / 1Password playbook