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Bluesky have started blocking links to @ddosecrets
https://www.wired.com/story/bluesky-blocks-links-to-major-leak-of-dhs-data/
There is no central blocking function in Mastodon. Do not in any way retoot this link https://ddosecrets.org/article/icepick
@Rairii @GossiTheDog @damon_ @untitaker @CrowsLabyrinth @sandwich @alterelefant this is bad, and something that many people are working very hard on changing. Luckily the network is decentralized in many dimensions so there are real changes happening there. @ricci has a whole website that has been documenting this across networks https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=at
@liaizon @Rairii @GossiTheDog @damon_ @untitaker @CrowsLabyrinth @sandwich @alterelefant @ricci Isn't that just tracking the storage, while the moderation and distribution are still completely centralised?
@jernej__s @Rairii @GossiTheDog @damon_ @untitaker @CrowsLabyrinth @sandwich @alterelefant you are right that the the site by @ricci does not track the decentralization of moderation. AT Proto takes a very different approach to moderation then ActivityPub does, and this makes it quite a bit harder to make comparisons between the fediverse and the atmosphere. Distribution is another dimension (how posts get propagated across a network) that is interesting to track and isn't well covered currently
@GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social @ddosecrets@kolektiva.social There is no central blocking function in ATProto. BlueSky is for ATProto network like an instance for ActivityPub network.
EuroSky don't block. BlackSky don't block.
ATProto is more decentralized than ActivityPub !
@AgS9Je1tmPvq66aTpo.aeris@firefish.imirhil.fr @GossiTheDog it's not centralized it's just heavily concentrated to the point that an ordinary user is effectively censored of it unless they seek out ghettos like the fediverse or eurosky
@GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social @sun@shitposter.world Not much than Mastodon. Where you are tied to your instance.
@AgS9Je1tmPvq66aTpo.aeris@firefish.imirhil.fr @GossiTheDog what does that have to do with global censorship of a link
@AgS9Je1tmPvq66aTpo.aeris@firefish.imirhil.fr @GossiTheDog what does eurosky block, I bet they block lots of stuff.
@GossiTheDog I wonder if people on Eurosky using mu.social are also blocked from following these links.
@CrowsLabyrinth @GossiTheDog Yeah, looks like it’s blocked on eurosky as well.
@sandwich
That is because it's one and the same system which is centrally controlled.
@CrowsLabyrinth @GossiTheDog
@alterelefant @sandwich @CrowsLabyrinth @GossiTheDog this is not true. What more than likely happened is that a) Mu.social is also blocking or b) they’re using the Bluesky AppView which includes their moderation service. That means both are active choices by mu. Try accessing it from Deer.social and Blacksky
@alterelefant that it absolutely not true and its really depressing that this keeps being repeated here. there *are* some centralized issues with the atmosphere and bluesky (the DID-PLC system being one of the main ones) but there are many different points of control in the network
