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People keep misunderstanding the term slop.
It's not a definition of perceived quality.
It's a definition of process.
Slop can be "high-quality" and it's still slop.
People who produce slop don't get out of deserved ridicule by saying "well this isn't slop, because it's good."
@jaredwhite Instead of improving software for end users, let's focus on ideological personal opinions on what tools are people supposed to use. And if they use the wrong tools, let's exclude them from the community and participation. We don't want that kind of inclusivity. /s
@Chapz You have it exactly backwards. LLMs foster *exclusivity*, erode trust, corrode craft, and ultimately are a net negative for FOSS. Also agentic coding services are not just "tools" any more than "Soylent Green" was just "food."
@jaredwhite I disagree, because all I see all over the internet are only extremes. One side says AI is the ultimate good and can do nothing bad, and the other side says AI is ultimate evil, and unable to do any good.
The truth is but in the middle. AI is like a knife, it can be used either to prepare food or kill people. But it's up to the human using it which one is it going to be.
@jaredwhite I agree there is slop, by the original meaning of the word, low quality code which brings no value and the owner doesn't even understand it. But, can you agree, someone with experience and understanding of the code, which doesn't use automatic agents, but guides and controls it's every step, can produce amazing things?
@jaredwhite Blood diamonds are still diamonds.
@jaredwhite well, isn't it you who just redefined slop meaning "total garbage produced by LLM" with "everything produced by an LLM"? You may want to edit the wikipedia article to match your definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_slop
@assimilateborg Merriam-Webster:
> We define slop as “digital content of low quality that is produced usually in quantity by means of artificial intelligence.”
Well, who gets to determine it's low quality is the question, isn't it?
Certainly not the purveyor of the slop. They'll always claim it's high quality. 😂
@jaredwhite slop can be also produced by human beings, as the text above proves.
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@jaredwhite this argument again?! 😆
For my money the defining quality of "slop" is that it's low effort. Listicles of the 2010s on Buzzfeed et al? Thats slop, just not AI Slop