@CryptPad what is your LLM policy?
Enquiring minds would like to know.
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@kauer
Not really.. CryptPad's funding is just paying people's salaries, no more. It still needs subsidies to exist. https://blog.cryptpad.org/2026/02/18/CryptPad-Funding-Status-2026/ My time and some of other XWiki employees is not even counted in the CryptPad budget. If you consider that paying employees is "benefits" then yes sure.. You can judge us, but do it based on proper information.
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@ldubost @CryptPad @abucci @onepict You are so missing the point. I am saying that there are no benefits of any description to you or the project that can justify using generative AI, a hugely wasteful and destructive technology based entirely upon theft.
I get that you would prefer not to hear that.
@ldubost@framapiaf.org Are you arguing that Cryptpad is potentially at risk if it does not use generative AI? What's the logic there?
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@onepict
We are not forcing anything. At this point we said we will survey our devs and users. But I do think there could be an issue of sustainability in case of a very wide no AI stance. This is also something we need to study. If users decide to use software only based on the end result, it could shrink who funds us. XWiki is more than the fiscal host of CryptPad, it's the only company employing it's developers, with the responsibility of paying their salaries.
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@ldubost@framapiaf.org Are you arguing that there are donors who will stop funding you if you refuse to use AI?
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In 2025 I can see that project members were not interested in AI
https://forum.cryptpad.org/d/2447-ai-in-cryptpad
But also with a kind of we don't have time to review.
At a time when many of us are looking for alternative tools that are explicitly not developed with LLMs, it would be nice to have a formal policy.
Hello @onepict
Thanks for your interest in CryptPad and its development.
So far we don’t have any AI-policy, however as a NLNet-funded project, we are following the NLNet AI policy 1.1: https://nlnet.nl/foundation/policies/generativeAI/1.1/
It allows for responsible and transparent use of AI-tools without degrading quality, clarity and maintainability. It has been recently updated to a 2.0 version only allowing read-only use of AI-tools. CryptPad is still compliant with it.
For the sake of transparency, CryptPad is using AI for security analysis ahead of releases to catch oversights, but the fixes are written and reviewed by our developers.
We are planning to make a survey to our end-user and developers to know their stance about the use of AI-tools in the development and plan to publish soon a temporary AI policy to clarify how it has been so far and our future plans.
On another note, the forum posts you linked to refers to AI-features in the product. Due to the way AI is working nowadays, we have no plan so far to integrate AI features in CryptPad in the foreseable future as it will go against the principle of end-to-end encryption.
