@mattsheffield @CStamp I've never felt a need for a thought through philosophy, but also wasn't brought up with religion - other than seeing it around the world and it being cultural to me - no different than the way people eat different foods. I mean I try to be a decent human usually, I research issues with which I may be grappling and I try to leave the world a better place, but I don't spend a lot of time "thinking" re MY philosophy and don't feel a need for it.
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@nomdeb @mattsheffield Religious people are programmed into thinking everyone needs that structure. It’s like that “no atheists in a foxhole” thing. They cannot understand never giving a thought to a god or religion, so always manufacture a scenario in which they are convinced someone would suddenly find god. If I go through life never thinking of a thing, why would I suddenly start thinking of it? I’d be thinking of a way out or loved ones…
@CStamp @mattsheffield and also teachings. I don’t like being told what to do or how to think about things. True that my entire life I have been anti authority. Stubbornly so. Ergo religion and I were never going to mix well. Even if I had been raised with one. I truly do not understand “faith” and belief. I can keep my mouth shut so as not to offend, but I just don’t get it. Too much evidence it is wishful thinking at best. Brainwashing at worst.
@nomdeb @mattsheffield Religions are cults. People are raised in them, so it becomes part of them. I’ve been around a few of them when they’ve had a crisis of faith. If it were proven that there was no god, there would be upheaval around the world. Folk either come to it on their own or just leave them be. They need it.
@nomdeb @mattsheffield @CStamp My Dad was a priest (CoE) so I was kind of brought up in a religious background. But he was not a very religiousy priest. More like just, be nice to others kind and help people out kind of thing. However, I still feel very similarly about the whole thing as you stated.
@mattsheffield @CStamp I did grow up reading a TON of books - all types. I'd read about seven or so a week. I suspect that was more influential in how I grew up thinking about things - in many different ways - more than anything else. Because I read about different people and situations and circumstances and stories and I reacted to those, and ergo grew in how I thought about things more broadly too.
@nomdeb @CStamp It sounds like you have actually done a lot of thinking and reading, and that you have definite views on a lot of topics. That's great.
I wish more people would do that, however, many young people haven't been alive long enough to do the reading. And they are being constantly bombarded with horrible ideologies on YouTube and other places.
I think we need to give people real and virtual places to learn about values and to develop their own.
@mattsheffield @CStamp I remember reading about some guy who thought atheists might benefit from non believing church type places and I came out in hives thinking about belonging to anything organized like that. To me if I want a group, I'll pick a hobby group - well not even that. As an introvert. :)