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I firmly believe today, and recent decades, "period piece" shows are a way to retain racist/misogynist role knowledge in pop media. All of them.
First comments/question:
Were people really this casually misogynistic in the time period, or was that the movie specifically?
@ai6yr does hooters still exist?
(have known a few really old guys who were enthusiastic fans of that place and always cringed if they mentioned it, because of the misogyny that represents)
@ai6yr i grew up around a navy base… hooters was not most cringy “mainstream” business on a main thoroughfare. gentlemen’s clubs and the ilk. hooters was just the one with a specific subset of adverts for families, seems like a specific choice to exercise power in that way. generational trauma.
@ai6yr Give the M*A*S*H movie a whirl if you're doing a "notable movies that aged badly" film festival.
@HumToTable I do recall the jokes in MASH are pretty bad, sexist, racist, etc.
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It was normal for the time.
Oooh, from the comments: sorry for bringing up so much trauma and PTSD. 😬
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For me, the 60s were worse. I had a good job in the 70s. The 80s were a scramble trying to survive for me to pay much attention to larger social issues.
(now fast forwarding to the dance parts, lol) #movies
(hmm, definitely a lot of casual racism in this movie too... 😬 ) #movies #SaturdayNightFever
(bundle of self destructive and terrible behaviors 😬 Don't have a lot of empathy for ANY of the characters ) #movies #SaturdayNightFever
(attempted rape, gang rape, ugh... suicide... yeah, gritty.) #movies #SaturdayNightFever
Almost no redeemable characters in this movie, at least none of the main characters. Dancing and music is good! I think the music much better than the movie, completely. Maybe as a social study and snapshot of the times 😒 #movies #SaturdayNightFever
@ai6yr Sir, this is my gift to you.
Samurai Night Fever - Saturday Night Live
YouTube
@mattblaze @ai6yr And there’s the followup in a later show where Belushi accidentally cuts Buck Henry’s forehead as a result of his katana antics. Henry is seen thereafter with a bandage — genuinely necessary — on his head, with the rest of the troupe also wearing one as a gag.
https://www.onesnladay.com/2018/08/06/october-30-1976-buck-henry-the-band-s2-e6/
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Personally, I'm fine, but thanks for thinking of us.
Never goddamn forget is why I remember.
Just found out today! that someone I've known for 30+ years is an anti-black racist; stated, so I assume the rest is in the bag. He was always dodgy and left few (but not zero) hints. TX turning blue infuriated him so much he blurted it out.
Another GNU person shits the bed. That org is death now.
They're everywhere. I don't see him often now, once per decade, but I won't let him pass next time I do.
Confronting your "friends" is hardest. They're not abstractions.
@ai6yr Yes. And very homophobic.
You don't want to know the mnemonic sentence I was taught -- in high school -- to remember the resistor color code.
The one I learned was both racist and misogynistic - it was 1979-80 I want to say.
@ai6yr OMFG some of the comments the partners at one of the big three consulting firms (where I worked in the 90s) used to make about the women in the office - from the secretaries to the consultants too. It was DISGUSTING. Still remember the holiday party where practice partner was practically mauling one of the secretaries while his wife sat uncomfortably at a table nearby. Misogynists and CREEPS.
Worse. They just got their asses kicked in the recent election. I distinctly remember how routine it was at literally every place I worked including the gay one.
@ai6yr According to my mom? Yes.
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Yes, very much so. Not just the movie.
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Openly casually misogynistic. Now they hide it better.
Enjoy the gang r*pe.
@EugestShirley Oh geez, this may not be so entertaining...
@ai6yr @EugestShirley it is a really hard movie. The music success skewed its perception for the general public.
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Yes, very much so.
@ai6yr Saw it in the theater (maybe first run). It's nothing like the reputation it has.
@ai6yr Could give you some tailoring ideas 💡 🧵
@ai6yr yikes, brace yourself it is gritty
@ai6yr @beandreams Oh, yeah, it's a lot heavier than it appears on the surface.
I forgot about the details it's been so long.
@ai6yr wow.
You're gonna see Travolta with hair. 😂
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My fave fact about the soundtrack:
"The Bee Gees’ dominance of the charts in the disco era was above and beyond Chic, Giorgio Moroder, even Donna Summer. Their sound track to Saturday Night Fever sold thirty million copies. They were responsible for writing and producing eight of 1978’s number ones, something only Lennon and McCartney in 1963/64 could rival—and John and Paul hadn’t been the producers, only the writers. [...] At one point in March they were behind five singles in the American Top 10. In 1978 they accounted for 2 percent of the entire record industry’s profits."
TWO FUCKING PERCENT
Also, it amazes me how many people remember the dancing and completely forget about the rape
https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2014/07/14/islands-in-the-stream/
Islands in the Stream by Bob Stanley