@publicvoit I don't share your interpretation of the text on the web page. You say it's very clear on the page and yet we disagree.

The Human Emacs project is for the people who have already discussed LLMs and have reached the conclusion that they don't want to use LLMs, nor their products. Therefore, do not sign on and then discuss the LLMs. Sign up if you are already convinced.

If you want to discuss LLMs, no problem. Don't sign up. But Human Emacs is not "ignoring their impact without any discussion". We have been discussing LLMs for years. It's all around us. It's inescapable. Surely there must be a place somewhere for the people who have reached the conclusion that they don't want LLMs in their Emacs.

As for "terrible": Of course it's a value judgement. But it being a value judgement does not result in inability to judge. If you don't see how LLMs are terrible, then you have reached a different conclusion than other people. Which is fine. But these other people still get to act upon the conclusion they reached, obviously. People disagreeing with each other and acting upon this disagreement is all around us.

I understand that if you don't see how LLMs are terrible then everything that follows makes no sense. As for myself, I've kept a long list of bookmarks over the last few years. Every now and then I still add new links. I think it would be fair to say that clearly there are some people who think that LLMs are terrible, even if you don't share this opinion.

@publicvoit @alex I define what terrible means to me. Simple as that. What's so complicated about that?