@delta
> the end of unencrypted email

Called it. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for apologies from everyone who accused me of spreading FUD, and claimed this rugpull would never happen. But any that come in will be appreciated all the same ; )

#DeltaChat #chat #email

@delta That sucks. The biggest/only selling point for Delta Chat was that it could gracefully degrade for compatibility with literally 100% of the internet connected population.

@delta@chaos.social For context, I'm in the middle of writing a big deep dive on email and the various practices to reduce lock-in. (If you or anyone reading have any opinions I'd love to hear them). I've been a fan of Delta Chat for a while so I thought it would be fun to include an "Instant Messaging with Email" section.

I took your post as an opportunity to try Delta Chat <-> Encrypted Email communication. While I only got it half working in the end, I still saw the potential as a bridge while contacts haven't moved over. That said, it would've just been quicker to set up a DC account instead of messing with keys (the email clients I tried couldn't get the keys from the vcard) :p.

From what I can gather the email ecosystem's asymmetry in Autocrypt implementation is causing increased load on folk in this case.

Some questions:

• What's the ideal DC<->Encrypted Email communication look like to you?
• Do you have any plans to improve that experience?
• Is it even a focus?
• Is there anything you'd like to see the wider email ecosystem working towards to reduce friction with delta chat?
• And do you have recommendations for providers/services that work out of the box so to speak with Delta Chat?

Feel free to throw whatever you have at me, the more info the better :). Thanks in advance.

paging @strypey, see above @delta

@delta thanks for the update! amazing work!

I've got a lot of friends and family on Delta Chat. Their profiles were created over the past few years meaning they only have the nine.testrun.org relay configured. None of them are technical, so explaining relays, servers, and profiles is not possible. Have you considered the possibility of auto-upgrading existing profiles that only have nine.testrun.org to add a few more relays?

@delta It sort of sounds like classic e-mail is done for!

@delta Getting better and better. Keep up the good work!

@delta about : It learns about new versions from the community chatmail relays it already uses.

what does that mean exactly ? also does it "download it here too" or use github ?

(i ask because i would not want to be took back onto a US server for update.

Thanks