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Seems Merz doesn't understand the difference between data-residency and data-sovereignty. Nor does he understand the scope of Trump's 2017 CLOUD act, which expressly states any data in any datacenter that is the property of a US corporation, regardless of where it physically resides in the world, can ultimately be accessed by US statecraft, on demand.
There is no 'data sovereignty' with GAFAM. Ever.
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Hi @JulianOliver
a universal moron. About the same knowledge of everything. But very enthusiastic about money and a natural talent in insulting people.
Of a breathtaking naivety…
The French gov learned that lesson in July last year, when the director of public and legal affairs for Microsoft France, Anton Carniaux, was asked to testify before the French Senate whether he could guarantee that the data of French citizens stored in Microsoft's Azure servers, **in France**, is safe from access by US statecraft.
He replied that he cannot.
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I'll break my n/n to add that we need to understand & remember the US would never, ever accept having its public/edu/mil/gov sectors hosted on foreign owned infra, lest of all abroad. Even that of a close ally.
Meanwhile, most of us, in some way, are taxed peasantry in the infrastructural equivalent of the Roman Empire, where the US gets to have its sovereignty and eat it too (at least the corporate Maxim of it), while the rest of the world does not.
This is an abject 'normal'.
@JulianOliver "US would never, ever accept having its public/edu/mil/gov sectors hosted on foreign owned infra, lest of all abroad. Even that of a close ally."
I like the thread, but you make a kinda big mistake here. True that FedRAMP High or DoD IL5 doesn't exist (yet) on foreign soil. I've had to deal with this many times over.
However, that's more a novelty exception than any kind of rule. Every single overseas base and embassy runs on host-nation telecom and power. Just look at DISA's Stuttgart office buying commercial leased circuits for Wiesbaden and Ramstein from the German carriers.
I could give a huge long list of the US depending on foreign soil and infrastructure but the point here should be something else.
Google (like Oracle) has swung hard into being a US military/intelligence contractor, meaning a front for Israeli intelligence, operations in Tel Aviv. Look up Unit 81 (I know them personally and I wouldn't give them the time of day let alone a state document). No joke, Merz is outclassed and played like a fool, as Germany foolishly hands national secrets to Israel.
@flyingpenguin Fair point. Perhaps I ought to have been clearer, 'server and PaaS/cloud infrastructure' .
For sure you can scrape L2/L3 on the wire, and yes carriers are a big part of sigint picture, but nonetheless that's skinny pickings next to the bounty of vast storage clusters of actual intelligence data, esp in this era. Arguably incomparable I reckon.
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This reminds me of the Galileo satellite initiative that ended up being absorbed by the US GPS array in return for some intel crumbs from the empire. EU have a serf mentality.
@zvinj Yes, a good reference and example!
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Seems Merz doesn't understand the difference between data-residency and data-sovereignty.
Merz very obviously understands nothing except airy words, treading on the vunerable and ensuring profits for arms companys, continuing Genocide in Gaza and actions ensuring the further rise of afd.
afd sponsored by usa israel russia and probably uae.