Kagi now has a Fediverse Forums search toggle
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That’s fucking awesome but the ranking is highly questionable.
I searched myself and a 4 upvote comment was the top thing.
I would have expected plenty of results from lemmynsfw given your username.
It’s too bad they require a subscription. I’ll never use this shit for this reason alone.
This attitude is why the internet is full of ads. Doing shit for free doesn’t happen on an empty stomach. I’d rather pay a fair price for software and services I use. I’m not saying anyone’s pricing is fair, just pointing out I don’t agree with this behavior.
Naah. People actually paying for the crspnis what drives it. YouTube was ad free backing the day. And when they allowed adds. It was intentionally to create an annoyance that they cooked profit from- so that when they offered a add free, they could ALSO profit from.
A one time fee, I understand. A monthly rate to use a web browser is shameful.
Most platforms usually start ad free and with no restrictions. That’s how they capture a chunk of the market. Then, once they have an established customer base, they typically introduce ads or a subscription so they can actually pay for the hardware and bandwidth the service runs on.
This is what YouTube, Google, and pretty much everyone did. It’s the standard play book.
One-time fees are not feasible for this type of business model. If the server costs are ongoing, meaning you have to pay for the user’s usage constantly, then you need to either constantly charge them too or take money out of your own pocket to subsidize it.
A one-time fee would have to be absurdly high (think hundreds of dollars) to take into account multiple years of usage, otherwise it’s too risky and you’re most likely losing money.
This mindset that subscriptions are all evil when hardware and bandwidth are billed to you every month/year is ridiculous.
Kagi at least is honest from the get go and never tried to trick customers into believing their service would be free forever. That’s what’s actually shitty behavior, when companies put out a product that they then enhsittify for the purposes of extracting profit.
Kagi was a subscription from the get go and told you that’s how they pay their bills, and in return you get the service they promised with no compromises. I’m not arguing whether the price is fair, but at least the business model is honest and doesn’t try to take advantage of me and my data.
Youtube also didn’t have a subscription option back in the day, and it also limited the length of videos you could upload. Things cost money to run, and something on the scale of Youtube costs a lot of money to run.
Now to be clear, I don’t pay for Youtube or watch ads, but that’s more because I object to directly giving Google my money with how much value they already generate just tracking and selling what browsing habits I am unable to obscure from them. If there was an option to pay Google $5-10 a month with the enforceable assurance that it came with absolutely no personal tracking and data collection, I would strongly consider it.
I would pay, for my personal use. But a lot of the time I’m on my company corp network, on a company device. And I don’t mix that with my personal logins and personal devices.
Petition your IT for a subscription. Worst they can say is no right?
“Just use chatGPT.” -IT
I’m guessing you haven’t worked for a big company before.
I’d pay if it wasn’t based in the US.
Fair point.
They have a free tier with 100 searches! It doesn't sound like a lot but I usually don't cross it.
I crossed it in a few days. Some people use the web pretty heavily.
I’d pay for it if their $5 a month tier wasn’t so limited
The $5 a month tier is more than enough for me; I don’t think I’ve gone over the 300 queries a month in almost a year, and I feel like I search a lot. Those couple of times I have, all it means is starting a new 30 day period a little early. It’s painless.
I definitley search a lot in that case; I tried it for a few months and I think I hit the 300 cap after three weeks each month.
No one should have to pay to search the web. They’re as bad as all the other monetized bullshit.
I think your first sentence is a valid opinion to hold, but I disagree that they’re just as bad when they’re very upfront about what you’re paying for. Google et all meanwhile don’t make it clear that they monitize user data unless you’re paying attention
Im okay with it tbh. The everything must be free on the internet mindset is what led ads working its way in everywhere.
It costs money to maintain software?
I like what Kagi are doing, even though I don’t pay for their search engine. I’ve been enjoying browsing the Kagi Small Web portal recently.
That’s not new. They’ve had it for a long time now.